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Re: Laws of physics, mathematics & theories Lawyerkill 09-06-2008
Posted by Lawyerkill on September 6, 2008, 1:03 pm



> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDAll the people who've been trumpeting "evolu=
tion"
> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDas a proven concept have pretty much put the=
mselves
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r the
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like
> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD(except for distance) there was gonna be a h=
angin'
> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDfor anyone who thought differently.
>
> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDAs I get off my soapbox I hope I've made my =
point.
>
> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD2Penny

I'm not getting into this debate, however Comic appears to think
evolution is an attack on his God.

The beginning of life is a philosophical debate, Evolution doesn't
deal with it, nor do they have a clue how it started. So Evolution and
ID are not mutually exclusive.

People like Ken Miller(Finding Darwin's God) and Francis S.
Collins(The Language of God) believe both in Evolution and a God. BTW
Collins was the head of the Human Genome Project and Miller is a
coauthor of college biology text book.

If anyone thinks there are no problems with Dawinism or Evolution then
they really don't know the subject that well. Skeptic magazine this
month has an article with some of the problems in it(pg 55) and books
like "The Design Matrix" by Mike Gene give many of the pros and cons
on the subject. Also Dr. J.C. Sanford does a fair job on it in his
book, "Genetic Entropy & The Mystery of the Genome."

I happen to think evolution had help.


Good luck with you masters degree, I think you added reason and logic
to this debate.

.

Posted by Balanced View on September 6, 2008, 1:31 pm


Lawyerkill wrote:
>
>
>> � � �All the people who've been trumpeting "evolution"
>> � � �as a proven concept have pretty much put themselves
>> � � �in the same camp as Gallileo's prosecutors or the
>> � � �pre-Magellan flat-Earth thinkers and sounded like
>> � � �(except for distance) there was gonna be a hangin'
>> � � �for anyone who thought differently.
>>
>> � � �As I get off my soapbox I hope I've made my point.
>>
>> � � �2Penny
>>
>
> I'm not getting into this debate, however Comic appears to think
> evolution is an attack on his God.
>
> The beginning of life is a philosophical debate, Evolution doesn't
> deal with it, nor do they have a clue how it started. So Evolution and
> ID are not mutually exclusive.
>
> People like Ken Miller(Finding Darwin's God) and Francis S.
> Collins(The Language of God) believe both in Evolution and a God. BTW
> Collins was the head of the Human Genome Project and Miller is a
> coauthor of college biology text book.
>
> If anyone thinks there are no problems with Dawinism or Evolution then
> they really don't know the subject that well. Skeptic magazine this
> month has an article with some of the problems in it(pg 55) and books
> like "The Design Matrix" by Mike Gene give many of the pros and cons
> on the subject. Also Dr. J.C. Sanford does a fair job on it in his
> book, "Genetic Entropy & The Mystery of the Genome."
>
> I happen to think evolution had help.
>
>
> Good luck with you masters degree, I think you added reason and logic
> to this debate.
>
> .
>

Yes, we are all evolved from Alien garbage, which is as provable as any
other religious explanation ;~)

Posted by phil scott on September 6, 2008, 1:37 pm


>
> > All the people who've been trumpeting "evolution"
> > as a proven concept have pretty much put themselves
> > in the same camp as Gallileo's prosecutors or the
> > pre-Magellan flat-Earth thinkers and sounded like
> > (except for distance) there was gonna be a hangin'
> > for anyone who thought differently.
>
> > As I get off my soapbox I hope I've made my point.
>
> > 2Penny
>
> I'm not getting into this debate, however Comic appears to think
> evolution is an attack on his God.
>
> The beginning of life is a philosophical debate, Evolution doesn't
> deal with it, nor do they have a clue how it started. So Evolution and
> ID are not mutually exclusive.
>
> People like Ken Miller(Finding Darwin's God) and Francis S.
> Collins(The Language of God) believe both in Evolution and a God. BTW
> Collins was the head of the Human Genome Project and Miller is a
> coauthor of college biology text book.
>
> If anyone thinks there are no problems with Dawinism or Evolution then
> they really don't know the subject that well. Skeptic magazine this
> month has an article with some of the problems in it(pg 55) and books
> like "The Design Matrix" by Mike Gene give many of the pros and cons
> on the subject. Also Dr. J.C. Sanford does a fair job on it in his
> book, "Genetic Entropy & The Mystery of the Genome."
>
> I happen to think evolution had help.
>
> Good luck with you masters degree, I think you added reason and logic
> to this debate.
>
> .

your points are well taken....I dont share your view on the OP
however, that was generous of you...


thats been a nutcase agenda for some time now on youtube..and by use
of grossly underhanded tactics used to get rid of viewpoints and
documentation such as you have mentioned... one of the more common
tactics are claims to be a scientist etc... then missing on all of the
issues.


Phil scott


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