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Subject Author Date More About IVAN Buff-Meister \"BUFFETTHATER\" 07-09-2008  Re: More About IVAN ausound 07-10-2008  Re: More About IVAN Buff-Meister \"... 07-10-2008  Re: More About IVAN =?x-mac-roman?Q... 07-10-2008  Re: More About IVAN Buff-Meister \"... 07-10-2008
Posted by Buff-Meister \"BUFFETTHATER\" on July 9, 2008, 9:13 pm Hey, realize a few of you are on the long side of this little promo, just wondering how few of you reviewed the tar sands purchase agreement ??? I thought so, none. http://ca.us.biz.yahoo.com/cnw/080529/ivanhoe_buys_oilsands.html?.v=1 Now, what confuses me is that those nice people at Talisman Energy sold them a lease which Suncor has surface mineral rights to. . . . Wait a second, best is yet to come. . . . its not Permitted yet, lol. This "High Quality Bitumen Resource" is directly adjacent to holdings of Suncor, PetroCan, EnCana <all really good, world class oil companies>. The size and scope of these world class producers begs me to ask, WHY DIDN'T THEY BUY IT?????? Seems that Suncor owns surface rights, why not complete the deal???? BECAUSE ITS CRAZY EXPENSIVE TO DO ANYTHING IN THE TAR SANDS DURING PEAK DEMAND!!! IMHO it looks like Freidland is out to get the sands project for purposes of adding to the proven and probable oil reserves (a huge potential number in the sands, note the average aquisition costs per BB at .50 and ask why?) Has anyone seen the budget forecasting for the new plants and equip? Is infrastructure in place? Native tribal claims? The more i read the more i wonder. How long before the shovels hit the dirt? When will permits be granted or applied for? Why does IVAN want credit for barrels of oil yet permitted and why the rush? Why, why, why did Talisman walk away from a 'sure thing?" Not being negative, i really want to own this thing long, just need some questions answered that no one speaks to. Posted by ausound on July 10, 2008, 3:58 am > Hey, realize a few of you are on the long side of this little promo, > just wondering how few of you reviewed the tar sands purchase > agreement ??? > I thought so, none. well I read it , but I didn't catch this little nugget you get an atta boy for good reading skills > > http://ca.us.biz.yahoo.com/cnw/080529/ivanhoe_buys_oilsands.html?.v=1 > > Now, what confuses me is that those nice people at Talisman Energy > sold them a lease which Suncor has surface mineral rights to. . . . > Wait a second, best is yet to come. . . . its not Permitted yet, lol. does Canada have a history of NOT GRANTING oil permits to parcels they've granted ?? doubt that as for the Suncor not playing ball?... it's money for nuthin'... they get their nug for just having their name on the paper... no oil rig, no fuss no muss no bother... a percentage of the gross... them suncor boys is smart this isn't so much as an indictment of Ivan, but more of a recognition of suncors' bidness accumen Ivan is late to the party and will pay an extra pecentage of the gross to be close to the big mondo bazuko Ivan is, yes, paying a premium to be in the thick of things Posted by Buff-Meister \"BUFFETTHATER\" on July 10, 2008, 9:23 am That's how i makes my money, LOL. "Do not put your faith in what statistics say until you have carefully considered what they do not say." Tribal claims. The natives are getting cancer at rates never before heard of, do a fast search on Suncor on Youtube.ca it approaching the post bomb Hiroshima levels according to some sources. Land mineral right grants come first, second is the permitting stage followed by water rights and public forums. Who owns the actual land? Is it Crown (Federal) land? Is it subject to native claims? I see none of this addressed. And the breakneck rates of growth have caused the fed and prov gov'ts to delay or reject outright some mining claims. Syncrude and Talisman are two of the smartest operators in the biz. Aside from obvious concerns, look at the second parcel mentioned, has inferior bitumin deposits and has not been fully drilled and tested? Concern number 2: the miraculous HTL conversion, if as reported. would allow high priced natgas to be replaced by sludge if i read correctly. NatGas emits CO2 and steam. What effluent is produced by the HTL process - - - see no disclosure on this as they hide behind the 'proprietary defense'. #3. Where are the revenues from sales of its proprietary extraction process? No license agree with China, the masters of piracy? Compare this to PBG.TO Petrobank. Posted by =?x-mac-roman?Q?-DirtBag=A9?= on July 10, 2008, 1:51 pm ausound wrote: > >> Hey, realize a few of you are on the long side of this little promo, >> just wondering how few of you reviewed the tar sands purchase >> agreement ??? >> I thought so, none. > > well I read it , but I didn't catch this little nugget > you get an atta boy for good reading skills > >> http://ca.us.biz.yahoo.com/cnw/080529/ivanhoe_buys_oilsands.html?.v=1 >> >> Now, what confuses me is that those nice people at Talisman Energy >> sold them a lease which Suncor has surface mineral rights to. . . . >> Wait a second, best is yet to come. . . . its not Permitted yet, lol. > > > does Canada have a history of NOT GRANTING oil permits to > parcels they've granted ?? > > doubt that > > as for the Suncor not playing ball?... it's money for nuthin'... > they get their nug for just having their name on the paper... > no oil rig, no fuss no muss no bother... > a percentage of the gross... them suncor boys is smart > > this isn't so much as an indictment of Ivan, but more of a recognition of > suncors' bidness accumen > > Ivan is late to the party and will pay an extra pecentage of the gross to > be close to the big mondo bazuko > > Ivan is, yes, paying a premium to be in the thick of things > > > IVAN will in the mix. It is finally in the game. I believe it is going to take a while but it is moving the right direction. Investors enthusiasm can move this stock through nice swings. I believe that you just buy it low and sell on upward momentum. Posted by Buff-Meister \"BUFFETTHATER\" on July 10, 2008, 4:56 pm Under capitalized. How they gonna pay for the infrastructure to separate sand from oil>Most of the cash raised is going into the pockets of Talisman. Good new out of this that you and comics wasted life savings on is i picked up TLM @ $18.85 it pays a div of 1% a single digit P/E and management seems to be getting its act together by selling off inferior, worthless, low grade assets at top dollar. BTW: I shorted IE.TO again today 20K at 3.04 When a promo starts to re-release its press releases to keep itself afloat on a day where oil spikes by $6 ITS A DEAD SHORT TRADING !!!!!! My target is $1.22 I called investor relations at IVAN to ask if the convertable note taken by TLM had a "No Short Selling" clause. They would not answer. WE KNOW WHY, LOL. Similar Threads Posted IVAN January 17, 2006, 9:12 am IVAN October 10, 2007, 6:05 pm IVAN The Next Jed Oil ???? June 18, 2008, 10:44 am IVAN +11% June 18, 2008, 2:49 pm Ivan October 7, 2008, 10:43 am How HTL and IVAN started December 14, 2007, 5:47 pm IVAN should pop today May 29, 2008, 8:47 am Re: IVAN - on fire today January 3, 2006, 2:44 pm Re Shorted IVAN @3.95 25K shares June 19, 2008, 1:58 pm Latest Price Forecast For IVAN June 21, 2008, 3:44 pm