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Forex Cycle Surfer Charts Free Dale Legan 05-31-2006
Posted by truth-b-told on May 31, 2006, 11:31 pm

futures-commodity-trading.com wrote:
> Elliott Wave, Natural Order, Gann and Cycles are in many ways illusion and
> B.S.?
>
> Then I'm afraid you simply have yet to discover the truth behind the
> markets, or are trying way to hard to be accepted by your critics.
>
> They are in no way, shape or form an illusion or bs.
>
> -R

Hey RAT,

Why is it that you are the most HATED vendor other than Legan in this
site? Is it because you REFUSE to tell the truth about your past? This
"+90% accuracy, and membership thrives," and MLM +680 members with
checks sitting on the desk, waiting to be cashed, is NOTHING BUT BS,
after BS, after BS, trying to suck in anyone who reads your garbage!!
Do you know how STUPID you look, when you try to talk yourself out of
this tightwad behavior, and make it look like you this very successful
trader, who has this endless supply of money pouring out of the seams
of his pants? Do you really know the meaning of the words, "honesty and
integrity?"

Both you and your buddy Legan, have ducked and dodged about +90% of the
questions that have been asked of you two clowns. RAT still hasen't
answered how many "members," are in his site, and how many "paid
members," are currently in his site, or who the owner is of the
TradersCastle forum? The reason why RAT will NEVER tell us, is because
he simply doesn't want us to know. How many different "projects," does
RAT presently run, in order to bring home the bacon? Do you really
think RAT will tell us? RAT would rather fill us with more of his BS
success stories, than to tell us the simple truth. Same goes for RAT'S
+50 fake names and promotional handle names? Or his "ILikeBoys thread."
Or RAT'S backtesting and lack of actually doing it these past +10-11
years. Or RAT'S use of many fake names he used in Yahoo, and in here,
where he tried to get the real Gann gurus, to reveal their Gann
methods, so RAT can STEAL them and tweak them and use them for his own
promotional purposes. This is EXACTLY what RAT has done for the past
+10 years. NO PROOF has ever been provided, by RAT or from Legan. Oh,
they love to brag about how well they both trade, and they love to tell
us how successful they are are, and both RAT and Legan, have posted
numerous losing trades and forecasts, but they choose to ignore ALL
commentary, which exposes the many flaws in their methods. Do they
think we can't see thru their BS?

Your integrity and your character RAT, like Legan's, is second rate
material. Legan has LIED numerous times, and so have you RAT. Your
arrogance and cockiness, during these past +11-12 years, is very
deceiving. Your demeanor Rick, matches your nickname RAT, because you
are like a rat, roaming the sewers, searching for food/garbage/new
customers, in the middle of the night. You should really come up with a
charity like Legan did. This implies you have a heart!! You need to
play this sympathy card better than you could ever imagine. After all,
both of you could easily buy 20 pairs of shoes or some simple bedding
and pillows, with one or two quick trades, can't you? Perhaps we should
set up a charity account, and have you trade it, right before our eyes?
We could turn it into a "Fema fund," with RAT and Legan managing it!!
Do you know how many TRILLIONS of bucks could be turned over each
month, with you two gurus running the "Biff and Buff Cycle/Gann Fema
Fund? With all that stored up knowledge and softeware gurushi& between
both of you "Cycle-Gann Gurus," why do you need us newbies, to sign
into your $10 trial site? Are you hoping you have enough BS in your
site, to get them to bite and hope they will stick around, and pay you
for another month, or possibly another 6 months? I am sure Legan has
made it a requirement, that after the one month trial is over, he only
has a 6 month membership, and either you sign up for that length, or
you don't. I think RAT raised his monthly fees to $59.00. They also
like to plug and promote themselve, by trying to sell the newcomers
more books and software. Both are trying to beat the other one in
selling their software. All they want is 10 suckers, to buy it for
$2,500.00 each!! A cool 25 grand, is what they want!! Hurry up, send
them your money, get on their list, before they go!! So why haven't we
read these success stories, in the Futures Magazine, or in the Stocks
and Commodities magazine, or in Traders World magazine?

Why is it that we now have stooped to an all time low with Legan's
charity work? What exactly does Legan prove, by promoting himself as
this Guru trader, but he needs your help to donate money to a small
private charity, which is run by non other than Legan himself. Oh,
Legan is preying and playing his sympathy cards again!! First, we get
Legan's dialysis and health problems, then we get his fabulous forecast
ability, then we get his tough guy tough talk approach, then he is
leaving this site excuse, then we get his highly acclaimed accuracy
forecasts again, then we get to read about Legan's success stories
again, then we get his charity talk, then he tells us he is leaving
this site because nobody in here is as good as he is, then he tells us
how high his IQ is, with spelling errors, then he starts a Yahoo group,
where salespitches and Daddy protects Dale at every turn, remember,
tell them what they want hear, spoonfeed them but don't tell them too
much, that costs $2,500.00 remember....then smelly cheese makes a post,
using a ficticious name, trying to coverup his identity, etc....hmmmm,
where did Legan learn how to do that?

Why does Legan and RAT, need the newcomers, to purchase this Gas in a
bottle, or that we have to sign into their sites and try them out for a
month, in order to make ends meet? The simple reason is, both you and
your buddy Legan, are having difficulty finding and actually making
ligitimate and profitable trades!! They rely on these "paper trades,"
and these ficticious forecasts," in order to prop themselves up and to
look good if they turn out to be somewhat correct. They both will
remind us, how well the trade goes, but only if it is a correct call.
They both like to make followup posts, and they both must have sore
shoulders, for patting themselves on the back all the time. They both
need a new supply of money every week, and they hope to get lucky and
find that winning trade and newbie sucker each week. This is why they
make these glorified posts to this site, with an endless supply of
trade forecasts, and commentaries, which are very misleading and very
deceitful. Neither one of them, can make an honest living trading,
because their "Cycle/Gann Guru methods," are NOT as good as they claim
they are, when trading in real time. In fact, both Rat and Legan, are
in disarray over the defination of a "cycle and Gann," and both of them
are full of BS. That is one thing we all can agree on!!

Sincerely,
gerillio.


Posted by Dale Legan on June 1, 2006, 1:14 pm
I don''t sell software guerillo. The truth is that most people do not
have the background knowledge to use it.

Gerillo, RR methods and mine are completely different. I've spoken up
because your attacks against a persons integrity are out of line.

You have never responded to my request to post a trade or something
other than an attack of a vendor. I wonder if you could actually have
an intelligent discussion.

You aren't qualified to ask a question because you haven't attempted to
understand my work, haven't taken me up on my offer to try my index
site for 1 month risk free.

Your goal is to discredit without ever understanding or investigating.
Why should anyone respond to your questions? Your not asking because
you want to know. If you wanted to know you would sign up for a month
of the index site risk free.

IT IS NOT THE CRITIC WHO COUNTS.... YOU SIMPLY DO NOT MATTER..



truth-b-told wrote:
> futures-commodity-trading.com wrote:
> > Elliott Wave, Natural Order, Gann and Cycles are in many ways illusion and
> > B.S.?
> >
> > Then I'm afraid you simply have yet to discover the truth behind the
> > markets, or are trying way to hard to be accepted by your critics.
> >
> > They are in no way, shape or form an illusion or bs.
> >
> > -R
>
> Hey RAT,
>
> Why is it that you are the most HATED vendor other than Legan in this
> site? Is it because you REFUSE to tell the truth about your past? This
> "+90% accuracy, and membership thrives," and MLM +680 members with
> checks sitting on the desk, waiting to be cashed, is NOTHING BUT BS,
> after BS, after BS, trying to suck in anyone who reads your garbage!!
> Do you know how STUPID you look, when you try to talk yourself out of
> this tightwad behavior, and make it look like you this very successful
> trader, who has this endless supply of money pouring out of the seams
> of his pants? Do you really know the meaning of the words, "honesty and
> integrity?"
>
> Both you and your buddy Legan, have ducked and dodged about +90% of the
> questions that have been asked of you two clowns. RAT still hasen't
> answered how many "members," are in his site, and how many "paid
> members," are currently in his site, or who the owner is of the
> TradersCastle forum? The reason why RAT will NEVER tell us, is because
> he simply doesn't want us to know. How many different "projects," does
> RAT presently run, in order to bring home the bacon? Do you really
> think RAT will tell us? RAT would rather fill us with more of his BS
> success stories, than to tell us the simple truth. Same goes for RAT'S
> +50 fake names and promotional handle names? Or his "ILikeBoys thread."
> Or RAT'S backtesting and lack of actually doing it these past +10-11
> years. Or RAT'S use of many fake names he used in Yahoo, and in here,
> where he tried to get the real Gann gurus, to reveal their Gann
> methods, so RAT can STEAL them and tweak them and use them for his own
> promotional purposes. This is EXACTLY what RAT has done for the past
> +10 years. NO PROOF has ever been provided, by RAT or from Legan. Oh,
> they love to brag about how well they both trade, and they love to tell
> us how successful they are are, and both RAT and Legan, have posted
> numerous losing trades and forecasts, but they choose to ignore ALL
> commentary, which exposes the many flaws in their methods. Do they
> think we can't see thru their BS?
>
> Your integrity and your character RAT, like Legan's, is second rate
> material. Legan has LIED numerous times, and so have you RAT. Your
> arrogance and cockiness, during these past +11-12 years, is very
> deceiving. Your demeanor Rick, matches your nickname RAT, because you
> are like a rat, roaming the sewers, searching for food/garbage/new
> customers, in the middle of the night. You should really come up with a
> charity like Legan did. This implies you have a heart!! You need to
> play this sympathy card better than you could ever imagine. After all,
> both of you could easily buy 20 pairs of shoes or some simple bedding
> and pillows, with one or two quick trades, can't you? Perhaps we should
> set up a charity account, and have you trade it, right before our eyes?
> We could turn it into a "Fema fund," with RAT and Legan managing it!!
> Do you know how many TRILLIONS of bucks could be turned over each
> month, with you two gurus running the "Biff and Buff Cycle/Gann Fema
> Fund? With all that stored up knowledge and softeware gurushi& between
> both of you "Cycle-Gann Gurus," why do you need us newbies, to sign
> into your $10 trial site? Are you hoping you have enough BS in your
> site, to get them to bite and hope they will stick around, and pay you
> for another month, or possibly another 6 months? I am sure Legan has
> made it a requirement, that after the one month trial is over, he only
> has a 6 month membership, and either you sign up for that length, or
> you don't. I think RAT raised his monthly fees to $59.00. They also
> like to plug and promote themselve, by trying to sell the newcomers
> more books and software. Both are trying to beat the other one in
> selling their software. All they want is 10 suckers, to buy it for
> $2,500.00 each!! A cool 25 grand, is what they want!! Hurry up, send
> them your money, get on their list, before they go!! So why haven't we
> read these success stories, in the Futures Magazine, or in the Stocks
> and Commodities magazine, or in Traders World magazine?
>
> Why is it that we now have stooped to an all time low with Legan's
> charity work? What exactly does Legan prove, by promoting himself as
> this Guru trader, but he needs your help to donate money to a small
> private charity, which is run by non other than Legan himself. Oh,
> Legan is preying and playing his sympathy cards again!! First, we get
> Legan's dialysis and health problems, then we get his fabulous forecast
> ability, then we get his tough guy tough talk approach, then he is
> leaving this site excuse, then we get his highly acclaimed accuracy
> forecasts again, then we get to read about Legan's success stories
> again, then we get his charity talk, then he tells us he is leaving
> this site because nobody in here is as good as he is, then he tells us
> how high his IQ is, with spelling errors, then he starts a Yahoo group,
> where salespitches and Daddy protects Dale at every turn, remember,
> tell them what they want hear, spoonfeed them but don't tell them too
> much, that costs $2,500.00 remember....then smelly cheese makes a post,
> using a ficticious name, trying to coverup his identity, etc....hmmmm,
> where did Legan learn how to do that?
>
> Why does Legan and RAT, need the newcomers, to purchase this Gas in a
> bottle, or that we have to sign into their sites and try them out for a
> month, in order to make ends meet? The simple reason is, both you and
> your buddy Legan, are having difficulty finding and actually making
> ligitimate and profitable trades!! They rely on these "paper trades,"
> and these ficticious forecasts," in order to prop themselves up and to
> look good if they turn out to be somewhat correct. They both will
> remind us, how well the trade goes, but only if it is a correct call.
> They both like to make followup posts, and they both must have sore
> shoulders, for patting themselves on the back all the time. They both
> need a new supply of money every week, and they hope to get lucky and
> find that winning trade and newbie sucker each week. This is why they
> make these glorified posts to this site, with an endless supply of
> trade forecasts, and commentaries, which are very misleading and very
> deceitful. Neither one of them, can make an honest living trading,
> because their "Cycle/Gann Guru methods," are NOT as good as they claim
> they are, when trading in real time. In fact, both Rat and Legan, are
> in disarray over the defination of a "cycle and Gann," and both of them
> are full of BS. That is one thing we all can agree on!!
>
> Sincerely,
> gerillio.


Posted by futures-commodity-trading.com on June 1, 2006, 1:52 pm
Is that guy still posting his rants Dale? Since I put him in my killfile it
has been sweet.

Why do you answer him? Don't you know that he is posting from a secure
mental ward in a Hospital in North Dakota?

Ignore him. Perhaps someday the doctor's will increase his meds and we'll be
done with it.

-R


>I don''t sell software guerillo. The truth is that most people do not
> have the background knowledge to use it.
>
> Gerillo, RR methods and mine are completely different. I've spoken up
> because your attacks against a persons integrity are out of line.
>
> You have never responded to my request to post a trade or something
> other than an attack of a vendor. I wonder if you could actually have
> an intelligent discussion.
>
> You aren't qualified to ask a question because you haven't attempted to
> understand my work, haven't taken me up on my offer to try my index
> site for 1 month risk free.
>
> Your goal is to discredit without ever understanding or investigating.
> Why should anyone respond to your questions? Your not asking because
> you want to know. If you wanted to know you would sign up for a month
> of the index site risk free.
>
> IT IS NOT THE CRITIC WHO COUNTS.... YOU SIMPLY DO NOT MATTER..
>
>
>
> truth-b-told wrote:
>> futures-commodity-trading.com wrote:
>> > Elliott Wave, Natural Order, Gann and Cycles are in many ways illusion
>> > and
>> > B.S.?
>> >
>> > Then I'm afraid you simply have yet to discover the truth behind the
>> > markets, or are trying way to hard to be accepted by your critics.
>> >
>> > They are in no way, shape or form an illusion or bs.
>> >
>> > -R
>>
>> Hey RAT,
>>
>> Why is it that you are the most HATED vendor other than Legan in this
>> site? Is it because you REFUSE to tell the truth about your past? This
>> "+90% accuracy, and membership thrives," and MLM +680 members with
>> checks sitting on the desk, waiting to be cashed, is NOTHING BUT BS,
>> after BS, after BS, trying to suck in anyone who reads your garbage!!
>> Do you know how STUPID you look, when you try to talk yourself out of
>> this tightwad behavior, and make it look like you this very successful
>> trader, who has this endless supply of money pouring out of the seams
>> of his pants? Do you really know the meaning of the words, "honesty and
>> integrity?"
>>
>> Both you and your buddy Legan, have ducked and dodged about +90% of the
>> questions that have been asked of you two clowns. RAT still hasen't
>> answered how many "members," are in his site, and how many "paid
>> members," are currently in his site, or who the owner is of the
>> TradersCastle forum? The reason why RAT will NEVER tell us, is because
>> he simply doesn't want us to know. How many different "projects," does
>> RAT presently run, in order to bring home the bacon? Do you really
>> think RAT will tell us? RAT would rather fill us with more of his BS
>> success stories, than to tell us the simple truth. Same goes for RAT'S
>> +50 fake names and promotional handle names? Or his "ILikeBoys thread."
>> Or RAT'S backtesting and lack of actually doing it these past +10-11
>> years. Or RAT'S use of many fake names he used in Yahoo, and in here,
>> where he tried to get the real Gann gurus, to reveal their Gann
>> methods, so RAT can STEAL them and tweak them and use them for his own
>> promotional purposes. This is EXACTLY what RAT has done for the past
>> +10 years. NO PROOF has ever been provided, by RAT or from Legan. Oh,
>> they love to brag about how well they both trade, and they love to tell
>> us how successful they are are, and both RAT and Legan, have posted
>> numerous losing trades and forecasts, but they choose to ignore ALL
>> commentary, which exposes the many flaws in their methods. Do they
>> think we can't see thru their BS?
>>
>> Your integrity and your character RAT, like Legan's, is second rate
>> material. Legan has LIED numerous times, and so have you RAT. Your
>> arrogance and cockiness, during these past +11-12 years, is very
>> deceiving. Your demeanor Rick, matches your nickname RAT, because you
>> are like a rat, roaming the sewers, searching for food/garbage/new
>> customers, in the middle of the night. You should really come up with a
>> charity like Legan did. This implies you have a heart!! You need to
>> play this sympathy card better than you could ever imagine. After all,
>> both of you could easily buy 20 pairs of shoes or some simple bedding
>> and pillows, with one or two quick trades, can't you? Perhaps we should
>> set up a charity account, and have you trade it, right before our eyes?
>> We could turn it into a "Fema fund," with RAT and Legan managing it!!
>> Do you know how many TRILLIONS of bucks could be turned over each
>> month, with you two gurus running the "Biff and Buff Cycle/Gann Fema
>> Fund? With all that stored up knowledge and softeware gurushi& between
>> both of you "Cycle-Gann Gurus," why do you need us newbies, to sign
>> into your $10 trial site? Are you hoping you have enough BS in your
>> site, to get them to bite and hope they will stick around, and pay you
>> for another month, or possibly another 6 months? I am sure Legan has
>> made it a requirement, that after the one month trial is over, he only
>> has a 6 month membership, and either you sign up for that length, or
>> you don't. I think RAT raised his monthly fees to $59.00. They also
>> like to plug and promote themselve, by trying to sell the newcomers
>> more books and software. Both are trying to beat the other one in
>> selling their software. All they want is 10 suckers, to buy it for
>> $2,500.00 each!! A cool 25 grand, is what they want!! Hurry up, send
>> them your money, get on their list, before they go!! So why haven't we
>> read these success stories, in the Futures Magazine, or in the Stocks
>> and Commodities magazine, or in Traders World magazine?
>>
>> Why is it that we now have stooped to an all time low with Legan's
>> charity work? What exactly does Legan prove, by promoting himself as
>> this Guru trader, but he needs your help to donate money to a small
>> private charity, which is run by non other than Legan himself. Oh,
>> Legan is preying and playing his sympathy cards again!! First, we get
>> Legan's dialysis and health problems, then we get his fabulous forecast
>> ability, then we get his tough guy tough talk approach, then he is
>> leaving this site excuse, then we get his highly acclaimed accuracy
>> forecasts again, then we get to read about Legan's success stories
>> again, then we get his charity talk, then he tells us he is leaving
>> this site because nobody in here is as good as he is, then he tells us
>> how high his IQ is, with spelling errors, then he starts a Yahoo group,
>> where salespitches and Daddy protects Dale at every turn, remember,
>> tell them what they want hear, spoonfeed them but don't tell them too
>> much, that costs $2,500.00 remember....then smelly cheese makes a post,
>> using a ficticious name, trying to coverup his identity, etc....hmmmm,
>> where did Legan learn how to do that?
>>
>> Why does Legan and RAT, need the newcomers, to purchase this Gas in a
>> bottle, or that we have to sign into their sites and try them out for a
>> month, in order to make ends meet? The simple reason is, both you and
>> your buddy Legan, are having difficulty finding and actually making
>> ligitimate and profitable trades!! They rely on these "paper trades,"
>> and these ficticious forecasts," in order to prop themselves up and to
>> look good if they turn out to be somewhat correct. They both will
>> remind us, how well the trade goes, but only if it is a correct call.
>> They both like to make followup posts, and they both must have sore
>> shoulders, for patting themselves on the back all the time. They both
>> need a new supply of money every week, and they hope to get lucky and
>> find that winning trade and newbie sucker each week. This is why they
>> make these glorified posts to this site, with an endless supply of
>> trade forecasts, and commentaries, which are very misleading and very
>> deceitful. Neither one of them, can make an honest living trading,
>> because their "Cycle/Gann Guru methods," are NOT as good as they claim
>> they are, when trading in real time. In fact, both Rat and Legan, are
>> in disarray over the defination of a "cycle and Gann," and both of them
>> are full of BS. That is one thing we all can agree on!!
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> gerillio.
>



Posted by Dale Legan on June 1, 2006, 1:01 pm
I was studying Elliott Wave and using it trading almost 21 years ago!
I can sit down with a point and figure chart and come up with a count,
projections and all those things. Anyone who knows me or my dad knows
that I know Elliott. Worked for years at a brokerage office with a
gann guy and his squares. On the surface there is something. But,
I've not found a way to do a verifiable statistical study on it.

I used to believe in Elliott and debated in my finance classes with the
random walk people on it. However, taking a closer look I've decided
although parts of it are usefull. Much of it is illusion. By
preconditioning the mind we can see pretty much what we want to see.

A person can come up with a count to match anything and then when that
cound doesn't work they can give the alternate count. I really don't
care what you call the "wave" ..a,b,c, 1,2,3 x, or julia. All that
matters is am I long or short, if not where do I get long or short, and
where is my stop. All that info needs to be updated each bar and
re-evaluated.

The Square of nine has some truth in that the square expansion is in
nature as is the fibonocci expansion. 2,3,5,8.. square 4, 9, 15,
ect... and the triangle expansion 3, 6, 10, ect.

I have a problem with mysticism! I had a big problem when my dad used
religion and the bible. Mysticism is what the church uses to get
undeserved and unearned power over peoples lives. Mysticism is what
fortune tellers use to con people. My Dad makes money trading in spite
of Elliott. It is his ability to "read" the tape that works for him,
that is a developed skill over many years.

And, I have years of experience teaching and watching people use these
methods. They just give to many what if's and alternate
interpretations. I don't see anyone making money with them. That is
not to say someone could not take a very specific set of rules and some
dates picked using one of these methods and not be successful. Also,
I've seen many Elliott forecast's come true. I'm not saying to throw
the baby out with the bathwater, just that there are a lot of problems.

What I'm saying is that some of it is true and useful and much of it is
illusion. People should be very careful and dilligent to separate the
2.

I have no problem telling people who use my charts to go ahead and use
Gann Lines, or F-Dates. Whatever gives a person confidence and gets
them to act on information and more importantly a place to place a
protective stop is great. But, I wouldn't use them out of the context
of the Cycle Surfer.

Honestly, Gann taught that to be rich and happy you had to Chant
Jah,,,Ho,,,,Vah,,,, and meditate. That is wacky... "The Magic
Word"....by Gann...





futures-commodity-trading.com wrote:
> Elliott Wave, Natural Order, Gann and Cycles are in many ways illusion and
> B.S.?
>
> Then I'm afraid you simply have yet to discover the truth behind the
> markets, or are trying way to hard to be accepted by your critics.
>
> They are in no way, shape or form an illusion or bs.
>
> -R
>
>
>
> > That is a good point blopper. I don't disagree with many of the
> > points mr X brings up. Elliotte Wave, Natural Order, Gann, and Cycles
> > are in many ways illusion and B.S.


Posted by futures-commodity-trading.com on June 1, 2006, 1:50 pm

>I was studying Elliott Wave and using it trading almost 21 years ago!
> I can sit down with a point and figure chart and come up with a count,
> projections and all those things. Anyone who knows me or my dad knows
> that I know Elliott. Worked for years at a brokerage office with a
> gann guy and his squares. On the surface there is something. But,
> I've not found a way to do a verifiable statistical study on it.

That's great. I've not had much use for Elliott Wave. Actually, I don't use
it at all. But it is a valid study. And as for Gann methods and Cycles, just
because you may hit a wall somewhere does not make it an 'illusion'. That is
presumptous. I've taken cycles beyond the textbook nonsense and know for a
fact it works and is no illusion. It is not even mystical.

> The Square of nine has some truth in that the square expansion is in
> nature as is the fibonocci expansion. 2,3,5,8.. square 4, 9, 15,
> ect... and the triangle expansion 3, 6, 10, ect.

The Square of Nine is a very valuable tool when used properly. I use it
mostly for some price points along with other price discovery methods. Not
much good at using it for time though. So it simply compliments my cycle
timing model to give a good picture of events.

> I have a problem with mysticism! I had a big problem when my dad used
> religion and the bible. Mysticism is what the church uses to get
> undeserved and unearned power over peoples lives. Mysticism is what
> fortune tellers use to con people. My Dad makes money trading in spite
> of Elliott. It is his ability to "read" the tape that works for him,
> that is a developed skill over many years.

I don't see the connection between the Bible and trading. And I know Gann
did. That is one facet I don't deal with in relation to any of Gann's
methods. I take the useful ones and put the rest aside.

> I have no problem telling people who use my charts to go ahead and use
> Gann Lines, or F-Dates. Whatever gives a person confidence and gets
> them to act on information and more importantly a place to place a
> protective stop is great. But, I wouldn't use them out of the context
> of the Cycle Surfer.

> Honestly, Gann taught that to be rich and happy you had to Chant
> Jah,,,Ho,,,,Vah,,,, and meditate. That is wacky... "The Magic
> Word"....by Gann...

I've never read that book because the title turned me off. As for chanting
"Jah Ho Vah and mediate, that IS WACKY. But not the name. It happens to be
the name of God (in English is Jehovah aka Yahweh)

Because of what I personally have found of use from Gann, and my own
discovery into dynamic cycle analysis, there isn't anything that can be said
to make me see otherwise. It is like seeing a house on fire and then being
told that it isn't on fire. Once the eyes see it, you can say whatever you
like.

My personal take on this Dale is that you need to focus on teaching subjects
you are good at. If that be the Cycle Surfer, cool. That's your baby. But
you ought to understand that others may have a greater grasp on something
you admit not finding benefit in.

Peace.

-R





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