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oil stocks-recession M.Balarama 01-14-2008
Posted by M.Balarama on January 14, 2008, 11:37 am
if there is a recession/depression--How to oil stocks do?
people still have to drive cars etc.


Posted by John A. Weeks III on January 14, 2008, 12:00 pm

> if there is a recession/depression--How to oil stocks do?
> people still have to drive cars etc.

Hard to tell. With a recession, folks may have less money,
so they may drive less. But then again, the oil companies
might be more profitable at some level of production less
than what they are running at today. Factories normally
have some sweet spot as far as output and profits. If you
run lower than that, or higher than that, your profits may
fall.

-john-

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Posted by Elle on January 14, 2008, 12:52 pm
This group is about sound financial planning. Diversify.
That means holding some oil stocks but many other
industries' stocks, and for the long run. Then know that
slow and easy wins the race. Remember that the upside of the
recession in the 1970s was that dividends (and dividends did
not take much, if any, of a hit then) were reinvested at
bargain prices, and folks enjoyed exponential growth when
the "recessionary years" ended.

If you're investing for the short run, hold no stocks.

Go to misc.invest.stocks or whatever group for specific
stock recommendations.


> if there is a recession/depression--How to oil stocks do?
> people still have to drive cars etc.


Posted by Andrew Koenig on January 16, 2008, 9:43 am

> Remember that the upside of the recession in the 1970s was that dividends
> (and dividends did not take much, if any, of a hit then) were reinvested
> at bargain prices, and folks enjoyed exponential growth when the
> "recessionary years" ended.

Also, you might want to look for an article on vanguard.com dated January 10
called "Recession and the Stock Market: Timing is Everything," which notes
that the S&P 500 posted positive returns during five out of the last nine
recessions.


Posted by Elle on January 16, 2008, 11:43 am
> you might want to look for an article on vanguard.com
> dated January 10 called "Recession and the Stock Market:
> Timing is Everything," which notes that the S&P 500 posted
> positive returns during five out of the last nine
> recessions.

Nice article, found quickly by typing "recession" into the
Vanguard site's search engine. I too have been watching for
articles that discuss historical recessions. This is a nice
summary of the nine said to have occurred since 1953.

Given that four of the recessions posted negative S&P 500
returns, I continue to value the advice to keep reinvesting
dividends, so as to pick up stocks at bargain prices.

One caveat to me remains that major banks are in
"significant" trouble. "Significant" being debatable. I am
responding largely to the dividend cuts (and other actions
taken) at Citi and WaMu. This is the first time in at least
18 years since either failed to raise its dividend at least
annually, if yahoo's records are reliable. I do not know how
much to read into this. Either way, being a long term
investor, the rules are to stay cool; maybe sell off any
positions seeming to be wildly overpriced and buy other
stocks cheap; take long term capital losses and buy back
later; and reinvest dividends where one can.



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