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Great book on Equity Risk Premium: Goetzmann and Ibbotson raylopez99 11-28-2006
Posted by raylopez99 on November 28, 2006, 1:02 pm
I shelled out quite a bit of money (for my standards) and bought a new
book Equity Risk Premium: Goetzmann and Ibbotson (2006), which is a
collection of historical essays and journal articles with updated
commentary.

If I have time I'll post some highlights.

I'm not a financial planner but the data was surprising.

For example: going back to 1825 (yes!) the stock market was found to
be quite profitable (though in the 19th century the market favored
dividends more than capital gains, and stock prices stayed roughly
level but gave out profits in dividends).

Hence, for total return (large company stocks):

>From 1825 to 1925 (geometric mean): 7.3%, with standard deviation
(STD): 16.3%
>From 1926 to 2005 : 10.4%
>From 1825 to 2005: 8.6%

Cross-correlation of assets are given, including real estate, corporate
bonds, metals (Au, Ag), etc.

Of interest regarding residential real estate is the low volatility
(STD):

from 1947 to 1978: residential housing: 6.88%/yr (geometric), STD =
3.28%! Compare with US Treasury notes: 3.7%/yr, STD = 3.71%. So real
estate was less volatile than Treasury notes. Amazing.

This review does not do justice to the book--which also gets into the
issue of how to build models for the equity risk premium, survivorship
bias, the global stock market, etc.

Highly recommended.

RL


Posted by jose.bailen@gmail.com on November 30, 2006, 5:01 am
Interesting. When I was at Chicago I remember several seminars on the
"equity premium puzzle": no model seems to explain in a satisfactory
way the huge difference between the long-term rate of return of stocks
(about 7 percent for big caps, in real terms), and the rate of return
of a safe asset (T-bills had an average real rate of return of less
than 0.7 percent between 1926 and 2002). Some models play with
individual preferences -the utility function- although their results
are not validated by empirical evidence, which shows a much lower risk
aversion; some other models play with a loss aversion (asymmetric
preferences, the pain of losing a given amount is greater than the
satisfaction of winning) other models play with liquidity constraints
and incomplete markets (this is the most plausible explanation in my
opinion); some other models play with trading costs, and so on...


raylopez99 wrote:
> I shelled out quite a bit of money (for my standards) and bought a new
> book Equity Risk Premium: Goetzmann and Ibbotson (2006), which is a
> collection of historical essays and journal articles with updated
> commentary.
>
> If I have time I'll post some highlights.
>
> I'm not a financial planner but the data was surprising.
>
> For example: going back to 1825 (yes!) the stock market was found to
> be quite profitable (though in the 19th century the market favored
> dividends more than capital gains, and stock prices stayed roughly
> level but gave out profits in dividends).
>
> Hence, for total return (large company stocks):
>
> >From 1825 to 1925 (geometric mean): 7.3%, with standard deviation
> (STD): 16.3%
> >From 1926 to 2005 : 10.4%
> >From 1825 to 2005: 8.6%
>
> Cross-correlation of assets are given, including real estate, corporate
> bonds, metals (Au, Ag), etc.
>
> Of interest regarding residential real estate is the low volatility
> (STD):
>
> from 1947 to 1978: residential housing: 6.88%/yr (geometric), STD =
> 3.28%! Compare with US Treasury notes: 3.7%/yr, STD = 3.71%. So real
> estate was less volatile than Treasury notes. Amazing.
>
> This review does not do justice to the book--which also gets into the
> issue of how to build models for the equity risk premium, survivorship
> bias, the global stock market, etc.
>
> Highly recommended.
>
> RL


Posted by raylopez99 on December 3, 2006, 8:14 am
Yeah I'm now reading the part of the book that gets into modeling. The
first, and most widely quoted model, assumes the different risk premia
(not the asset classes, but the risk premia) are statistically
independent of each other. This "building blocks" model adds the risk
premia for inflation, default, horizon, equity together, linearly.

The book mentions the problem you refer to, as the "equity premium
puzzle", first pointed out in 1985 by Mehra and Prescott.

RL

jose.bailen@gmail.com wrote:
> Interesting. When I was at Chicago I remember several seminars on the
> "equity premium puzzle": no model seems to explain in a satisfactory
> way the huge difference between the long-term rate of return of stocks
> (about 7 percent for big caps, in real terms), and the rate of return
> of a safe asset (T-bills had an average real rate of return of less
> than 0.7 percent between 1926 and 2002). Some models play with
> individual preferences -the utility function- although their results
> are not validated by empirical evidence, which shows a much lower risk
> aversion; some other models play with a loss aversion (asymmetric
> preferences, the pain of losing a given amount is greater than the
> satisfaction of winning) other models play with liquidity constraints
> and incomplete markets (this is the most plausible explanation in my
> opinion); some other models play with trading costs, and so on...


Posted by David Moore on December 4, 2006, 4:58 am
A free, recent, and very informative article on the equity premium is
Dimson, Marsh, and Staunton, "The worldwide equity premium: a smaller
puzzle" at http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=891620.

You did read the definitive book by the same authors, Triumph of the
Optimists: 101 Years of Global Investment Returns" Princeton U Press,
2002, right?

David


Posted by Jose Bailen on December 4, 2006, 10:30 am
Another fact is that the median investor makes less than 7 percent
long-term real rate of return (see
http://news.morningstar.com/article/printArticle.asp?id=178504), which
is the market average. If you add trading costs -which lowers expected
returns by around 1 to 2 percent of total investment in the stock
market-, and progressive income taxes, the puzzle is smaller. I think
that a well-measured model which includes all these facts and
short-term liquidity constraints may well explain most of the puzzle,
even in the context of a standard neoclassical model.
David Moore wrote:
> A free, recent, and very informative article on the equity premium is
> Dimson, Marsh, and Staunton, "The worldwide equity premium: a smaller
> puzzle" at http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=891620.
>
> You did read the definitive book by the same authors, Triumph of the
> Optimists: 101 Years of Global Investment Returns" Princeton U Press,
> 2002, right?
>
> David


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