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EE Bonds Default User 11-06-2007
Posted by Default User on November 6, 2007, 8:50 pm

When I first started working at my job, I got signed up for payroll
deduction into EE bonds. I stopped that after some years. The earliest
ones will start maturing in 2011.

Right now, these bonds would represent a small portion of my overall
bond exposure, about 2.5% of what I have projected for bonds.

Should I keep these or cash in now?



Brian

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Posted by Elle on November 8, 2007, 5:29 pm
What is the issue date on the bonds coming due?

Some of your bonds may be paying a minimum of 7.5% right
now. See
http://treasurydirect.gov/indiv/research/indepth/ebonds/res_e_bonds_eeratesandterms_eebondsissuedbefore051995.htm

No high grade (= low risk) bond fund right now is paying
7.5%... hence any EE bond you have paying this rate should
be held to maturity.

The home page of the site above has links to other helpful
info on this.


> When I first started working at my job, I got signed up
> for payroll
> deduction into EE bonds. I stopped that after some years.
> The earliest
> ones will start maturing in 2011.
>
> Right now, these bonds would represent a small portion of
> my overall
> bond exposure, about 2.5% of what I have projected for
> bonds.
>
> Should I keep these or cash in now?


Posted by Elle on November 8, 2007, 5:45 pm
> No high grade (= low risk) bond fund right now is paying
> 7.5%... hence any EE bond you have paying this rate should
> be held to maturity.

Oops, the minimum likely expired. It's a tad complicated.
See the site above and sites like
http://www.savings-bond-advisor.com/series-ee-savings-bond-interest-rates/ .
They suggest your EE bonds are paying closer to 4% now.

Whether to cash in or not is maybe a case of "five will get
you ten." Consider that no state tax is due on the interest
of EE bonds. (Federal tax will still be owed, though.)

I'd say the EE bonds are close enough to mimicking the bonds
used in allocation planning. One of the most famous
allocation studies (Trinity U.) used investment grade, long
term corporate bonds, which should pay better interest than
any Treasury. I'd stick with bonds having no more than
about a five year maturity, since these historically
"optimize" return and are short enough to offer some
flexibility. Going out beyond five years does not result in
much higher interest rates.


Posted by Default User on November 8, 2007, 5:55 pm
Elle wrote:

> > No high grade (= low risk) bond fund right now is paying 7.5%...
> > hence any EE bond you have paying this rate should be held to
> > maturity.
>
> Oops, the minimum likely expired. It's a tad complicated. See the
> site above and sites like
> http://www.savings-bond-advisor.com/series-ee-savings-bond-interest-ra
> tes/ . They suggest your EE bonds are paying closer to 4% now.

I downloaded this spreadsheet thing that tells you what the current
value and all is.

> I'd say the EE bonds are close enough to mimicking the bonds used in
> allocation planning.

I'll probably just hang on to them then, at least until they begin to
mature.




Brian


Posted by Default User on November 8, 2007, 5:52 pm
Elle wrote:

> What is the issue date on the bonds coming due?

The earliest bonds were purchased in 1981. They are either $50 or $100
EE bonds.



Brian


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