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Changes to AMT? Samson 12-21-2007
Posted by Samson on December 21, 2007, 6:54 am
I hear vague reports of changes to AMT. Does anybody know the specifics
that congress has proposed? Will this effect people who are exercising
company stock options? And should this be well understood before the end of
2007, a week from now, so that it can be acted on?

Samson


Posted by Mark Freeland on December 21, 2007, 11:36 am
The IRS Wednesday promised updated forms within 72 hours on their website.
That gives people enough time to react (5 trading days). Or, you can read
the law now (apparently still waiting for Bush to sign):
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.r.03996:

Here's the text:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:6:./temp/~c1100LSWUs::

Very short, and accurately reported by the press - it increases the
exemption amount (the amount you subtract from your AMT income before taking
26%/28%) to $66,250 (joint) and $44,350 (individual).

See Form 6251, line 29 - change the numbers in the line's instruction
accordingly.
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f6251.pdf
(there's also a phaseout of this exemption for high income - the change to
that phaseout isn't quite as clear, though it's hard to believe it would
amount to anything other than substituting the new numbers in the worksheet
for line 29).

It will affect anyone subject to AMT tax, because it reduces the amount of
income subject to AMT.

As always, this is for information purposes only, does not constitute
advice, and you should not rely upon it.

Mark Freeland
BnetOnewsX@sbcglobal.net

>I hear vague reports of changes to AMT. Does anybody know the specifics
>that congress has proposed? Will this effect people who are exercising
>company stock options? And should this be well understood before the end
>of 2007, a week from now, so that it can be acted on?
>
> Samson


Posted by Mark Freeland on December 21, 2007, 12:47 pm
Very hard to link to Thomas. Try this instead:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bssQuery/?&Opt=T&Db=110&srch=/bss/d110query.html&TxtStr=TAX+INCREASE+PREVENTION+ACT+OF+2007

(click on HR 3996 for status/text of legislation; click on "Text" for text,
and then chose the last version - the one passed by House and Senate -
HR3996ENR).

> The IRS Wednesday promised updated forms within 72 hours on their website.
> That gives people enough time to react (5 trading days). Or, you can read
> the law now (apparently still waiting for Bush to sign):
> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.r.03996:
>
> Here's the text:
> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:6:./temp/~c1100LSWUs::


Posted by Tad Borek on December 21, 2007, 1:48 pm
Samson wrote:
> I hear vague reports of changes to AMT. Does anybody know the
> specifics that congress has proposed? Will this effect people who are
> exercising company stock options? And should this be well understood
> before the end of 2007, a week from now, so that it can be acted on?


There are plenty of news articles out now about the bill that was just
passed, raising the AMT exemption levels - the base level of income that
is exempt from AMT. The bottom line is, the majority of people who were
subject to AMT on Monday aren't subject to AMT today, but those who fell
into it last year are likely to again this year.

AMT can affect those who exercise stock options, specifically ISOs
(incentive stock options), and the new bill didn't change that. You
don't always trigger AMT by exercising options, but that's one of the
"preference items" that gets people into the tax. See the Fairmark site
for a summary of AMT and ISOs: www.fairmark.com

And for tax year 2008, it's all on the table again...Congress just keeps
passing one-year "patches" instead of addressing the tax itself. If it
isn't patched again, AMT will be harsher in 2008 than 2007, and a 2007
exercise could save some taxes. Congress keeps passing these one-year
extensions though.

It is very difficult to figure out whether you'll pay AMT without
plugging all your numbers into tax-projection software...it would be a
good idea to talk with an accountant or other tax advisor if you're
planning an option exercise and are concerned with AMT. Otherwise you
can end up with a tax bill from an options exercise, even though you
haven't sold anything to raise cash.

-Tad



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