$200k - where to invest for safety

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$200k - where to invest for safety ps56k 02-17-2010
Posted by ps56k on February 17, 2010, 2:31 pm


My wife last year received about $200k from her parents life insurance...
It's been sitting in the checking account since then.

What would be the best way to invest,
with max safety of principle in mind,
along with max growth or divs...

ie - what kind of mutual fund from Fidelity/Vanguard
would be appropriate - and all at once, or dollar avg...


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Posted by Douglas Johnson on February 17, 2010, 5:31 pm




>What would be the best way to invest,
>with max safety of principle in mind,
>along with max growth or divs...

You realize that max safety is in direct conflict with max growth or divs?

>ie - what kind of mutual fund from Fidelity/Vanguard
>would be appropriate - and all at once, or dollar avg...

It depends. How long are you investing for? What other investments do you
have? Do you have an emergency fund? What kind of risk are you willing to take
for what kinds of rewards? I'll trot out my standard advice to go read
"Investing for Dummies".

Dollar cost averaging is a means of minimizing emotional pain at a cost of
reduced returns. The assumption is that the stock market has a long term up
trend with lots of unpredictable ups and downs along the way. If that's true,
the way to maximize returns is to invest everything immediately.

But that runs the emotional risk of investing just before one of those
unpredictable downs. Ouch. DCA gives you two emotional crutches. If the
market goes up as you are making the investment, you can tell yourself "I'm
making money". If it goes down, you can tell yourself "I'm buying more".

Nothing wrong with that, much of good investing is managing your emotions. But
mathematically, the best thing to do with a lump sum is invest it all
immediately.

-- Doug


Posted by ps56k on February 17, 2010, 6:02 pm



>
>
>>What would be the best way to invest,
>>with max safety of principle in mind,
>>along with max growth or divs...
>
> You realize that max safety is in direct conflict with max growth or divs?
>
>>ie - what kind of mutual fund from Fidelity/Vanguard
>>would be appropriate - and all at once, or dollar avg...
>
> It depends. How long are you investing for? What other investments do
> you
> have? Do you have an emergency fund? What kind of risk are you willing
> to take
> for what kinds of rewards? I'll trot out my standard advice to go read
> "Investing for Dummies".
>
> Dollar cost averaging is a means of minimizing emotional pain at a cost of
> reduced returns. The assumption is that the stock market has a long term
> up
> trend with lots of unpredictable ups and downs along the way. If that's
> true,
> the way to maximize returns is to invest everything immediately.
>
> But that runs the emotional risk of investing just before one of those
> unpredictable downs. Ouch. DCA gives you two emotional crutches. If the
> market goes up as you are making the investment, you can tell yourself
> "I'm
> making money". If it goes down, you can tell yourself "I'm buying more".
>
> Nothing wrong with that, much of good investing is managing your emotions.
> But
> mathematically, the best thing to do with a lump sum is invest it all
> immediately.
>
> -- Doug
>

sorry - forgot about the 20 questions....

This is special gravy money - short term -
let's say for college in the next couple of years.

All our other portfolio investments are spread around in various funds
that run the entire spectrum.... risk vs reward
domestic, intl, emerging, growth, value, divs, small, med, large, etc -

SO - don't really want to gamble with this $200k -
that's why it's been sitting in the dumb checking account.


Posted by Douglas Johnson on February 17, 2010, 8:03 pm



>SO - don't really want to gamble with this $200k -
>that's why it's been sitting in the dumb checking account.

Then why move it?

-- Doug


Posted by dapperdobbs on February 17, 2010, 8:59 pm


> [snip]

> SO - don't really want to gamble with this $200k -
> that's why it's been sitting in the dumb checking account.
>

As Douglas Johnson said, if the money is already earmarked, then what
is so dumb about (200k in) a checking account?

A savings account paying 1.x% would be an improvement, but maybe
prepaying for college would be worth 7%. If it is indeed gravy money
you wish to consume, these days cash can negotiate 10%, 20% - even 50%
discounts. Sounds pretty safe to me. I've even heard of some people
negotiating 50% off on a house!

Money is a medium of exchange for product. Investment involves an
exchange for inputs of production, then production, then an exchange
for money.


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