$12k gifts - cash vs 529 acct

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$12k gifts - cash vs 529 acct P.Schuman 01-30-2008
Posted by P.Schuman on January 30, 2008, 5:16 pm
thinking about our grandparents yearly "gift" of $12k....to lessen their
estate holdings...

Comments on whether it's better to put some into a 529 acct for each kid
that was established by the grandparents.... or just hand over the $12k ?

They previously had put a portion each year into the respective kid's 529
acct,
and then the rest was given as birthday + xmas presents....

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you have obviously overlooked something." - Steven Wright


Posted by joetaxpayer on January 30, 2008, 5:43 pm
P.Schuman wrote:

> thinking about our grandparents yearly "gift" of $12k....to lessen their
> estate holdings...
>
> Comments on whether it's better to put some into a 529 acct for each kid
> that was established by the grandparents.... or just hand over the $12k ?

Missing data - how old are the grandkids? Is there any issue about
someone else controlling the money? i.e. a 529 cannot be spent by the
beneficiary, it is controlled by the account owner. Easy way to shift
things around. And the 529 has a tax advantage the outright gift does
not. If the estates are really huge, grandparents can gift ahead up to 5
years with no gift tax issue.
JOE
www.blog.joetaxpayer.com


Posted by Lon on January 31, 2008, 3:14 pm
wrote:
> thinking about our grandparents yearly "gift" of $12k....to lessen their
> estate holdings...
>
> Comments on whether it's better to put some into a 529 acct for each kid
> that was established by the grandparents.... or just hand over the $12k ?
>
> They previously had put a portion each year into the respective kid's 529
> acct,
> and then the rest was given as birthday + xmas presents....
>
> --
> ----------------------------------
> "If everything seems to be going well,
> you have obviously overlooked something." - Steven Wright

I am a grandparent that has just recently set up a 529 College Plan
for three grandchildren ages, 2, 4, 6. We did so not for any Estate
Tax considerations, but to aid in the cost of each child's education.
My wife and I control the funds which must be used for tuition, books,
fees and other costs attributable strictly for college. The money in
the accounts accumulates on a tax free basis and is not taxable when
withdrawn if used for the preceding reasons. The 529 precludes misuse
of the funds by either the parents or the grandchildren. If for some
reason they do not go to college, the funds can be withdrawn, given to
the children, and is taxable to them. We deposited into three
separated accounts with Vanguard, lump sums, and will not be making
any further contributions.


Posted by joetaxpayer on January 31, 2008, 3:48 pm


Lon wrote:
> I am a grandparent that has just recently set up a 529 College Plan
> for three grandchildren ages, 2, 4, 6. We did so not for any Estate
> Tax considerations, but to aid in the cost of each child's education.
> My wife and I control the funds which must be used for tuition, books,
> fees and other costs attributable strictly for college. The money in
> the accounts accumulates on a tax free basis and is not taxable when
> withdrawn if used for the preceding reasons. The 529 precludes misuse
> of the funds by either the parents or the grandchildren. If for some
> reason they do not go to college, the funds can be withdrawn, given to
> the children, and is taxable to them.* We deposited into three
> separated accounts with Vanguard, lump sums, and will not be making
> any further contributions.

*only the growth is taxed. That growth is subject to 10% penalty unless
you qualify for an exception to the penalty. The exceptions relate to
withdrawals made on account of the beneficiary's death, disability,
receipt of a scholarship, or attendance at a Unites States military
academy. A limited exception also exists for families claiming a Hope
credit or Lifetime Learning credit since those credits act to reduce
your qualified higher education expenses.

JOE


Posted by kastnna on January 31, 2008, 4:09 pm
> I am a grandparent that has just recently set up a 529 College Plan
> for three grandchildren ages, 2, 4, 6. We did so not for any Estate
> Tax considerations, but to aid in the cost of each child's education.
> My wife and I control the funds which must be used for tuition, books,
> fees and other costs attributable strictly for college. The money in
> the accounts accumulates on a tax free basis and is not taxable when
> withdrawn if used for the preceding reasons. The 529 precludes misuse
> of the funds by either the parents or the grandchildren. If for some
> reason they do not go to college, the funds can be withdrawn, given to
> the children, and is taxable to them. We deposited into three
> separated accounts with Vanguard, lump sums, and will not be making
> any further contributions.

Also, if a child does not go to college (or doesn't spend all of the
funds at college) you can change beneficiaries of the account to
another qualifying family member.


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